April 24, 2025

Energy: The Invisible Force That Shapes Your World

Energy shapes our reality, and in this conversation with healing arts practitioner Jenna, we explore how what we put out into the universe always comes back to us.

Jenna shares her journey from a nervous breakdown and divorce to becoming a healer who channels universal energy, offering insights on leading with heart instead of ego and how judgment often reflects something we need to heal within ourselves.

We also dive into the magic of sound healing, especially the transformative power of gongs, and how these instruments become partners in the healing process.

For those feeling disconnected or drained, Jenna shares simple practices to protect your energy, like reconnecting with nature and being present.

This episode reminds us that spiritual growth is about awareness, compassion, and listening to the whispers of our soul.

00:00 - Introduction to Energy and Vulnerability

05:27 - The Power of Energy in Everyday Life

09:51 - Meet Jenna: The Energy Healing Expert

18:07 - Judgment, Ego, and Self-Awareness

32:17 - Awakening Through Life's Challenges

45:23 - Changing Your Energy, Changing Your Life

55:09 - Sound Healing and the Magical Gong

01:00:54 - Closing Thoughts and Recommendations

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I'd love to help you get vulnerable.

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Let's get naked.

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Hey everyone, I'm Anne.

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Welcome to the let's Get Naked podcast, where we dive deep into vulnerability.

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In this space, we'll explore what triggers us, uncover the patterns holding us back and discover how to take charge of our own growth.

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If you're ready to dig in, be vulnerable and face the tough stuff, then buckle up.

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It's time to get naked.

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Today we're going to be talking with our guest about energy.

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Energy is everything.

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It's in every interaction, every conversation, every thought, every action.

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It's not just some abstract thing floating around.

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It's tangible.

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It's something we feel constantly.

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And here's the kicker we attract the energy we put out.

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Period.

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The kind of energy you radiate into the universe is what the universe gives back.

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I'm sure you've noticed it.

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When you're walking around in a bad mood, everything seems to spiral.

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The car cuts you off your coffee spills, people are rude to you, but when you're in a good mood, suddenly the world seems a little brighter.

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Strangers smile at you, people are more considerate and even the smallest of annoyances feel less aggravating.

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This is the law of attraction at its core.

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The energy you project into the world comes back to you.

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Now let's talk about energy on a deeper, more spiritual level.

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Energy isn't just emotional or mental, it's also physical and it's something that can be healed, balanced and manipulated.

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That's where practices like Reiki come in.

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Reiki is a form of energy healing that originates from Japan, and it's all about channeling energy through the hands of a practitioner to help heal emotional, physical and spiritual imbalances.

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It's built on the idea that there's a universal life force, energy that flows through all living things, and when that energy is blocked or stagnant, we experience discomfort or disease.

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Reiki helps to remove these blockages and restore balance to the body and mind.

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Think of it like this your body is like a battery and your energy flow is the charge that keeps you going.

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When that energy is stuck, weak or misaligned, you'll feel tired, drained and unbalanced.

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Reiki aims to clear those blockages and re-energize you, bringing you back into alignment with your true self.

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But here's the thing you don't have to be a Reiki master to understand this concept.

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You can begin to feel the impact of your energy in your daily life by simply becoming aware of it.

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What kind of energy do you put out?

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Are you constantly negative, critical or stressed, or are you positive, loving and compassionate?

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It's easy to fall into the trap of complaining, venting and blaming the world for our problems, but that only creates more of the same negativity.

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You get what you give.

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Plain and simple, this isn't just about good vibes or positive thinking.

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It's about alignment.

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When you are aligned with the energy of love, gratitude and peace, your entire reality shifts.

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Opportunities start flowing to you, your relationships become healthier, you start to see the beauty in small things.

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But when you're out of alignment, when you're disconnected, frustrated or angry, everything around you seems off.

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You don't just attract negative people, you attract negative situations.

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You attract what mirrors your internal state.

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Reiki teaches us that we can consciously shift our energy.

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It encourages us to let go of negative thought patterns, heal past wounds and raise our vibrational frequency to one of love, light and peace.

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It's not about denying the darker emotions or pretending everything is okay.

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It's about acknowledging those feelings and releasing them in a way that doesn't disrupt your inner balance.

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It's about healing from the inside out.

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So next time you feel like life is handing you a bunch of negativity, take a step back.

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Check in with yourself.

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What energy are you putting out into the world?

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Are you creating space for positive change or are you contributing to the chaos and frustration around you.

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If you're struggling with negative energy, consider trying something like Reiki to help restore your balance and guide you back to a more harmonious state.

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It's not magic, it's energy.

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And that energy, my friends, is the key to unlocking a life full of positivity, healing and abundance.

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Today we're stripping it all off with my friend, jenna.

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Jenna is an integrated healing arts practitioner and what I will say is a Reiki energy genius.

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Thank you.

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Welcome to the show.

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Thank you, that was perfect.

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I'm going to use that.

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Yeah, absolutely, I would love to have those notes.

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I know, right, it was perfect.

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Yeah, well, good, I'm glad, I'm glad, thanks.

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So I met Jenna for the listeners at home.

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I met Jenna, a couple of years ago I found her in a really amazing, lovely way, and I'm going to tell that story because I find that it's excellent.

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So I had just moved back down from living up in Northern Arizona and my energy smelled like dog shit and I knew that I had been in a tough situation for several years and just really did not feel like myself.

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I wasn't aligned with things and I had this whole thing about hummingbird for whatever reason.

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So yeah, so I love hummingbirds anyways, and just in life.

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But then I had a situation where my husband and I had been married, had just recently had an anniversary, and he had given me this little like hummingbird statue.

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We moved down to Phoenix, the house that I found that literally the universe brought to our front doors on Hummingbird Lane.

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Correct, and then I'm looking for.

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you know Reiki work and I had had some done years and years ago but really had gotten kind of away from that a little bit and was looking and found, came across Jenna's website Sacred Paws.

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Sacred Paws Healing Correct.

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Sacred Paws Healing Right and was reading about Jenna and she has a hummingbird tattoo on her arm, which is on her website and just everything about what she had to say really spoke to me, and so I went and saw her, and now I send all of my people.

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She sends everybody to me.

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So that's what I give for gifts is like a certificate to go see Jenna to have your uh.

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I love that.

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Thank you, you know session and totally honored every time you do.

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Yeah, I love it so much so.

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I absolutely adore Jenna.

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I think she's incredible, but I just believe that the work that you do is so incredibly powerful.

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Thank you that you do is so incredibly powerful.

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Thank you, yeah, thank you.

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So I would be powerful than I even understand sometimes what's happening.

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I think you're absolutely right, Right, Like I think you put yourself out there and you're in service to the collective, but like I don't think you really realize how huge what you do is I have no idea.

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Yeah, people tell me all the time I'm like thank you.

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Like I have a hard time explaining, I have no idea what I do for a living exactly.

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Um, I created a business on compassion and that was it.

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Um, I knew I was supposed to be in service.

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I don't know what that means.

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Sometimes I think that I'm always in service.

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Um, I started pulling together different modalities, like into a toolbox, and didn't know what I was doing with any of it, and didn't realize that I was, I don't know, like magical in my own little way and we all are.

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But I just didn't realize that what was coming through me, not from me.

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So it's not me I'm not giving you a piece of me but what's coming through me is, uh is helping other people.

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I just had no idea.

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And so what do I do?

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Uh, a lot of coaching, um, a lot of energy work.

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And what does that mean?

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I'm moving.

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I like shake a snow globe.

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So everything that's been stuck in our bodies, whether it's old trauma, whether it's old trauma, whether it's old emotions or new emotion, whatever it is that makes us not feel light.

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I'm shaking it up for you yeah and what you choose to do.

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What your body chooses to do is up to your body yeah so we talk about it, we do a lot of vibrational healing, we do energy work and then whatever else comes out, whether it's we're saging down the building or we're, I'm always up for a good ritual.

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If you've got something you want to do, I'm doing it with you.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So I don't really know what it is I do, except that I create a space that's safe for somebody else to come and be vulnerable, to do whatever's supposed to happen that day it's interesting because the things that you say that kind of hit for me are being in service to community.

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Yeah, being a conduit.

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Right, it's not from you, it's through you.

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Correct, you know, the snow globe thing really lands for me because that's exactly what it feels like, and whatever you're in the right timing for.

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Whatever you're supposed to be getting is what you're going to get, Absolutely.

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And you literally just hold space for people.

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That's right, that's right, that's right, and it's not my ego.

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So if I'm coming in saying Anne's coming in today, what can I do for her, then I've just blown the whole thing, because it has nothing to do with what I can do for somebody.

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This is coming through me for you from a source that is already available to you, and you're just maybe not able to get there on your own.

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We all need somebody to help us get there, including myself, so I'm that person.

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For whomever's walking through my door, you're a guide for people to be able to just find their heart, absolutely yeah.

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It's fascinating to me because I think people that I've sent to you that don't know anything about it come back, because I'm just selfishly, I want to hear what their experience is just for like tell me more, and it blows every single person's mind that comes to see you that isn't familiar with.

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Reiki, and I have no idea, yeah, and I'm always like, oh, they had a good time, oh, that's good, right, right, I don't know that I'd say a good time.

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Some people come back after.

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Yeah, not everybody has a good time, but everybody gets what they need out of it, absolutely.

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And that's what's coming through.

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It has nothing to do with my will for them today.

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My will is to show up, unlock the door, make sure it's safe for them and safe for myself, and let them have the experience that they were supposed to have by God or the universe.

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Yeah, you mentioned something about ego and I think that that's something, as I've continued on my journey, of really having to keep that in check.

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I think I had a huge experience when I did ayahuasca a couple of years ago and it really helped me see the difference between my ego and my soul.

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Yeah, right, the difference between kind of your personality and ego.

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Yeah, and I don't want I spent my entire life with that being what led me.

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Yeah, rather than let your soul lead your ego and your personality, because you are supposed to be a conduit and once you realize, um, it's not about you.

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Like I thought the world revolved around me for the first 40 years of my life.

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Right, so for those that, knew me in a previous life.

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Like I'm, a completely different person in the last eight years.

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And we need ego.

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Right, there's a part of us that need ego.

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We do, but it shouldn't lead you Right, Absolutely.

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You should make choices from heart not ego.

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So when I go into service, I release ego.

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Fear, judgment those are the words every day.

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So I'm not here to judge you for what you're going through.

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I'm actually not even here to give you advice on what you're going through.

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I'm here to hold space for it and listen, and that's the biggest thing that I've taken away from where I started and how I ended up is what have I learned?

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I've learned to listen really well and not judge.

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I think holding space is literally like the coolest thing on the planet like it's what drives me now, because, as I've gotten further into the work and I started working a couple years ago with just people that are in my inner circle, people that have said notice like the energy that has changed in me and I want what you have kind of thing, tell me what you're doing you know, and it literally is just cleaning out the gunk letting your emotions really be, you know, boss in in your life and uh and all of the things that go into that.

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But uh, yeah, it's, it's powerful to be able to hold space.

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Like that's all I want to do for people now because I just, when people hold space for me, I just appreciate that to a whole crazy level.

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And when I'm able to hold space for other people, it feeds my soul.

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Yeah, and holding space is different for every person.

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You don't know what that holding space is going to look like.

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You have to be willing to just go with the flow, like break no rules.

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So open up the space, sit there and wait for whatever needs to show up that day when I think we've gotten so in society, to this judgment.

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This, all of the things that are so gross and so nasty, they feel bad for the people that are doing it.

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They feel bad for the people that are receiving it.

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Yeah, and holding space is really just no judgment right, just really helping guide someone, whether that's even just with your presence and no words.

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Yeah, I mean, there's a lot that goes into holding space and it can look like a bunch of different things.

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Yeah, and judgment is when we're all going to judge.

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It's part of human society, it's part of what we've been brought up, we learn and it's going on all around us.

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So when we judge, we have to ask ourselves why are we judging?

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Yes, I found that we judging yes, so because it has something to do about us it does nothing to do about, it's nothing to do with the other person when you realize that, like really realize that at your core.

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Oh my gosh why am I doing this?

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Turn, turn in on yourself, get curious about it when you find yourself judging somebody else.

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Get curious about it.

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I used to find myself judging, uh, people that were loud and obnoxious and the people that are having the most fun in the room.

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And then I looked, looked and I'm like that's me.

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I'm judging them because that is who I am.

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I'm judging that because that's who I am.

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Just saw myself Right, exactly, and so when you're really willing to sit with those gross feelings and say like okay, why am I doing that?

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What does that look like?

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Where is that coming from?

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It's important work.

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I continue to tell people like get curious about yourself, get curious about that's what this is all about.

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Self-awareness is what this is all about, and even you ask you know what do I do?

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I allow you to become self-aware, like what is really, what's really bothering you?

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Where is that emotion really coming from?

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Yeah, where is the trauma?

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Where's the root of the trauma?

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Not what your spouse said to you that made you feel this like where did it really come from and how far back does it go?

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I think it's fascinating because I think I feel like there's layers of things right and this layer of judgment gross.

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You know, picking on each other, not being amazing to each other is a whole different thing.

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And then there's this next level of okay, really getting curious about yourself and diving into that and like what does that look?

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Do you plug into the collective?

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How do you plug into the source?

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Like you, it just sheds all of that base layer grossness that you plugged into for so long where it's like that's nothing, nobody, that's nothing.

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No, it's a totally different vibration and you step out of it and you don't even.

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It doesn't even register for you anymore.

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I don't hang out with people that talk about other people.

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I hang out with people that talk about what they're doing to be better.

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How?

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They're supporting other people, how they're being of service to the community, and I look at that and I think I'm a completely different person in the best possible way, because it doesn't have anything to do with me.

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None of this does.

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I'm literally like a speck of sand, and the more you grow, the more you're letting go of people who don't serve you in that space anymore, and it's okay.

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It's better to have small amounts of quality than to have these large groups that don't really do anything but put you into positions where you are back in ego or fear or shaming or whatever it is, which is all disgusting stuff.

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It's all gross stuff, but we do it and we go back right so we can be high and we're up, you know, vibrationally, we're all up, you know, vibrationally, we're all you know, up here in this, in this cloud or this.

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But then we're going to go backwards and that's okay too it is, but are you self-aware enough to know that you just went backwards?

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it's funny that you say that, because I had a.

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I had a moment a couple of months ago where I found myself like sliding back into old patterns at work that were very uh, made me feel like I had control over things or that I needed to.

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It's your survival.

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It is right, and so I had to just kind of really remind myself and double down on the surrender of this isn't about me.

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This isn't about I'm not holding things together.

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This has nothing to do with that and really like just reaffirm to myself that it's not.

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It's not in my control.

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I'm supposed to just release and let the big guy do whatever the big guy's gonna do.

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Yeah, control is so hard.

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Oh, it is because we want to.

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It's a survival technique and I think in our age group and whatever that age group is 45 to 60, let's put it that age group we were brought up by parents who just need us figure it out on our own.

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Yeah, so we've been surviving, yeah, forever usually with a lot of shame and guilt.

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So much shame.

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I mean the shame is I just realized.

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So I'm turning 56.

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I just realized in the last year that my mother has been asking me what is wrong with you my entire life.

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I had no idea.

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I just realized at this year.

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I'm like, oh my God, what is wrong with me?

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And I'm like, wait a second, where did that come from?

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And I had to go backwards and realize that what is wrong with you is just a part of my life.

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And so now I'm trying to figure out what the heck is wrong with me all the time.

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There's nothing wrong with me.

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Now I just turned around on her.

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I'm like what is wrong with you?

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I mean, these are parents that had to be reminded that they had kids at 10 o'clock every night.

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I love that.

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You say that, didn't you love it?

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Do you remember?

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that Well.

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We didn't have a TV growing up, which is maybe part of why I was so weird.

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Maybe that's part of your problem right there.

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I mean I do have a lot of unusual I've learned in the last couple of years.

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Really unusual things in my upbringing, but I do remember that.

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It is 10 pm.

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Do you know where your children are?

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They had to be reminded at 10 pm.

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We were feral and that's okay.

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We were feral growing up.

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We had a great time.

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The 80s were a whole different ball of wax, no cell phones, no one to show you a picture of how stupid you were when you got drunk or did something stupid or?

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Whatever, no, we didn't know.

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No, we were just living our best lives on our own and being shamed, of course, as well, and and all the other good stuff.

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So now I think it's our time.

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Our generation is here to fix it.

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I couldn't agree with you more and it's a.

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It's a hard weight to carry on our shoulders it is, but it's exciting.

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It is exciting, for me it's.

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It's like let's fucking go to be able to say I'm not afraid of it, let's bring it on.

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I'm willing to get to the root of the root of the root, yeah.

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When I hold space for people, I literally it's like you don't have demons that are going to make me scared.

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I've seen everything.

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I've seen all the things I am, I've been, I've been.

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All the things I am.

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And I'm still all the things and I still will a human and a woman and all the other good stuff, and a mother and an ex and a daughter and a friend.

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I'm still going to beat myself up and not think I'm enough, but I can pull myself out so much quicker than I used to.

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I think people, like people from the other side, look at people that are spiritual or people that kind of walk this path and maybe they don't understand or think we're woo woo and like all, which is totally fine.

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Yeah, I look at that though, and I think maybe explore that in yourself, right, if you're curious about, like, what the woo woo is what are you afraid?

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Of the woo woo.

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People seem pretty happy.

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We're pretty happy.

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Yeah, we're pretty happy, pretty happy.

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Sometimes we call it woo-woo and sometimes we don't.

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Yeah.

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We can call it spiritual, but what's spiritual to?

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you and what's spiritual to me is going to be different.

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Yeah, and I think being willing to uncover the gross stuff, whatever the gross stuff is, even the gross stuff, is this big right.

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My trauma is not the same as yours, yours isn't better than mine, um, but to be willing to go back and not be scared of it and say oh yeah, oh yeah, and this is the role I played in it, and be okay with that.

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And take accountability to yourself to yourself.

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You don't have to tell anybody else.

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Nobody gives a shit.

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It's not about anybody else.

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Nobody cares about yourself, right?

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and and being curious enough about yourself to really like unpack all of that right, it's not.

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There's not like one size fits all.

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Yeah, spirituality, that like okay, now you're on this side, now you do that everybody's journey is completely different, absolutely.

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But I do think it's understanding the energy and the positive energy and the impact that you have on the world and being in, you know, service and just all of these different concepts that kind of come together and we do still have bad days, you do still have things.

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Spiritual people still have bad days, absolutely, but I will tell you, for me, it is a no-brainer as far as which side of that I want to be on because it is such a beautiful thing to know who I am.

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Yeah, not to have it masked with a bunch of numbing and a bunch of other shit.

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Not to not be able to feel my emotions?

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Yeah, not to be able to just all of the things that I used to be or to tell your story.

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Oh God, just tell the story.

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There's no shame in telling the story.

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Actually, people will see you more as a real person.

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Yeah, this has been.

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This whole podcast has been a very vulnerable thing for me because I went from being private, not even having social media, like not you know like all of that.

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I mean bravo Right.

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To now what I call showing everybody the inside of my asshole.

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You know because I literally just say all the things.

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It's a visual.

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I'm an intense person.

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Everyone that knows me knows that I'm an intense person, but being saying all the things right and it feels comfortable to say here, and then someone will text me from outside of that and say like oh, I heard your pot.

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And I'm like oh fuck, I forget that they published.

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Everybody's heard it.

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Everybody knows that.

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But yeah, but that's okay, because I see the impact that this podcast has.

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No-transcript wow, that's, that's incredible.

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Let me, let me go inside on myself or let me go all in on me.

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That's all I care about.

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So just being able to share the, the knowledge that I gotten.

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I think I spent like the last eight years really just every piece of self-improvement, anything I could do, whether it was traditional therapy, whether it was self-improvement books or podcasts or retreats and ayahuasca and Reiki and breath work.

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I have been a junkie that is just obsessed with it because I have to find the right thing.

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It makes me feel so good and so now I just want to share it from the rooftops because it's like hey there's a different way.

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You guys, we don't have to do this hamster wheel, and it doesn't have to be ugly, right, it doesn't have.

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Everybody feels like this trauma has to be so ugly to get it out, and it doesn't have to be that way.

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You know, you don't have to be laid in a ball, curled up on the floor crying during a breathwork session or during I've not done ayahuasca but a psilocybin journey.

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You don't have to do that.

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There's so many ways to go through healing this trauma or just acknowledging it and noticing the trauma.

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The self-awareness is the biggest piece of that, it's huge.

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What would you tell people?

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Maybe people who don't understand, people that are curious, like what are some things that they can do just in their everyday, doesn't cost any money, don't have to go anywhere to do anything like what are some suggestions?

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How about sit outside, sit outside.

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How about sit outside With no phone?

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No, no phone, no music.

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Can you sit outside and just be present with yourself.

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I think that scares a lot of people.

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It's so scary.

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It's so scary and I'm the queen of that.

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I'm addicted to it now.

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I'm addicted.

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I've always been addicted to it, but now I've given myself permission that it's okay to sit outside and do nothing.

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And when people come to me they're like I need to meditate.

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I'm supposed to meditate.

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I don't meditate.

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What am, what am I?

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I'm like why are you trying so hard, right?

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Isn't meditation about connecting back to yourself?

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You don't have to sit there and ohm for 30 minutes.

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It's lovely to get there, and it's you know?

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You get an awakening at times.

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There's some great information that way from your higher self.

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But what's wrong with just sitting outside and being in nature, with source, with what has been created for us, and being quiet and having your little mushroom coffee, which is me, and sitting and watching my dogs chase birds it's the best day ever.

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I told, I told my husband the other day.

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I'm like I get bird watching now like I totally totally get it.

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I used to think like oh, that's an old people's thing, and like blah blah blah with the binoculars I'm old now whatever, but I totally get it yeah, there's something so lovely about just connecting with that they're so happy to them chirp, or or going and sitting at the base of a tree and just being we've spent so long and our society is so into numbing, numbing with yeah, booze with alcohol or booze and alcohol are the same thing they're the same flash to everyone.

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I could see how they could be different as well booze, you know food, uh, scrolling on your device getting hot, whatever it is.

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Avoidanceance is huge and I will avoid everything I'm.

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There's no perfection here.

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I have avoided so much and I will still avoid.

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Like I'm avoiding doing my taxes.

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I'm just saying it.

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I don't want to do it, I just don't want to.

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But if you can get rid, if you could take all the substance or the the fake stuff that keeps you busy and be present with yourself long enough, that's when all the good stuff happens.

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It does, that's when all the yummy stuff happens.

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That's the awesome sauce on the other side of that, but it is really hard to lean into that.

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There's billions out there that won't right.

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The society is so ego.

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It's such an ego-based society that there's no presence.

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Nobody is having compassion and presence for themselves.

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We need to.

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We need to change that as a collective, because I think that's the answer.

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We have to change it one person at a time.

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We do Right, just one soul at a time that walks in the door for me and it's it's allowing them to see things differently for for an hour or an hour and a half, and then they go out and something's different.

00:25:16.108 --> 00:25:18.593
Tell me about, so I, I call.

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I call it when you go from being asleep to not being asleep, you're awakening.

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Yeah, Mine you know was obviously hitting my rock bottom with drinking and going and I went to an excellent rehab facility that had Reiki breath work like all of these things.

00:25:33.846 --> 00:25:39.209
That really kind of pointed things out to me as far as what was really wrong with me, what I was hiding, what I was numbing.

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Tell me what your awakening looked like or what your.

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I think there's so many layers of it, sure, sure, sure, so many layers of awakening, and I'm not even sure there's one space anymore that holds.

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What was the awakening?

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Because I think that the awakening still is happening and I think, for as long as I've been doing my job which I don't consider a job, I consider it an extension of who I am I think I'm just awakening where you're so happy with everything, even though you've gone through so much.

00:26:07.518 --> 00:26:09.648
So when did it start?

00:26:09.648 --> 00:26:10.570
I'm really not sure.

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I know that it was an accumulation and a buildup of getting married and having kids and loving that job.

00:26:17.473 --> 00:26:26.827
So I, that's my favorite job I've ever had and I, I own that, I love it.

00:26:26.827 --> 00:26:29.353
My kids still know, I still have adult children living with me because they know I love it.

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And then things started getting harder and I don't remember when, but I started getting anxiety and panic attacks and that for me was was a wake up call.

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It was somebody who's trying to get my attention and I'm not paying attention.

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So it builds up.

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And it builds up where it's getting worse and now I'm diagnosed with panic disorder and I'm like where I don't even know where this came from.

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Have I always had that like I'm sitting here, so in the panic and anxiety that I'm not seeing anything else, which leads to a true nervous breakdown, and the nervous breakdown was panic and anxiety that would not go away, and somebody now looking back, somebody saying something's not right.

00:27:04.647 --> 00:27:08.272
We're going to change this for you and we're going to make it look really bad.

00:27:08.272 --> 00:27:20.711
And so I think only in the last maybe five years that was 2011, the last five years, I've finally figured out, like somebody's trying to tell me something and you're not hearing us.

00:27:20.711 --> 00:27:24.656
So we're going to make this bad again and again, and then again.

00:27:25.278 --> 00:27:28.352
And then that started the demise of my marriage.

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And it wasn't me that started it.

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It was somebody not emotionally mature enough to help their spouse through a situation that they were going through, which caused a disconnect, and that got worse and worse.

00:27:40.695 --> 00:27:42.531
But I wasn't going to leave, girl.

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I'm in this.

00:27:43.630 --> 00:27:53.914
So God, creator, universe, call it what you want Source is like we've got to make something else happen, so let's throw in a third party and change the entire thing.

00:27:53.914 --> 00:27:59.059
And that's what happened, and I was literally left, and I'm not afraid to say it.

00:27:59.059 --> 00:28:05.010
And that's my happened, and I was literally left and I'm not afraid to say it, and that's my story and my version, and I lived it and I have no shame behind it.

00:28:05.010 --> 00:28:07.534
Somebody walked out on me and left me with teenage boys.

00:28:08.144 --> 00:28:09.652
How long had you been married when that happened?

00:28:10.145 --> 00:28:12.213
I was married for 19 years when that happened.

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So, and then was led through limbo, emotional limbo for about a year and a half where I didn't really realize I was getting a divorce.

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I didn't know, everybody else seemed to know.

00:28:23.311 --> 00:28:33.965
So yeah, so I think that that survival technique that I always had, I never had the chance just to sit and like be so sad about it.

00:28:33.965 --> 00:28:40.489
I did, I threw things in the wall, I did a lot of things I could have caught a bitch in the parking lot, but I didn't do it.

00:28:40.509 --> 00:28:41.092
You were angry.

00:28:41.092 --> 00:28:42.856
I mean, I was very angry.

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Yeah, I was very angry and I don't think that until really recently that I was allowed to be as angry as I was, because what is wrong with you was always being fed to me at the same time.

00:28:54.497 --> 00:28:55.809
I'm like what is wrong with me?

00:28:55.809 --> 00:28:56.613
Like what did I do?

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So is wrong with me, like what did I do?

00:29:00.886 --> 00:29:02.771
So I'm back to shaming myself over something that I didn't even do and everybody knew.

00:29:02.771 --> 00:29:26.047
And so now I'm having this, this heaviness of people knowing my entire life, and I was like like I'm now I'm off of Facebook, like I can't do any of this, and being in a neighborhood that was like living, it was like Beverly Hills, all of a sudden, and everybody knew my stuff, and I was like I've got to get out of here.

00:29:26.047 --> 00:29:43.173
But I was frozen I don't know even what the next word would be except frozen in just fear and started just diving into what I'd been hearing in my mind's eye all along, but I couldn't get to that, which was something's not right and you need to fix it, and I still don't even know what that means.

00:29:43.776 --> 00:30:04.935
I just went back to school and started going through life and had the motto that I needed to go with grace, whatever grace looked like to me that day, because I could have gone into a parking lot and cut somebody over it, I could have fought for something that wasn't there anymore, but my self-awareness was I'm not going to chase anything that's gone.

00:30:04.935 --> 00:30:16.910
And so I just kept on going and, little by little, this intuition that was already there started exploding and I knew that something more was happening.

00:30:16.910 --> 00:30:20.958
I still had no idea what I was doing Went to school, took some Reiki classes no reason I have no idea.

00:30:20.958 --> 00:30:41.672
I didn't know what it was Took four other energy modalities Still don't know what it is Just having a good time Trying to raise two boys by myself, trying to sell a house, trying to get divorced which took a year and a half and not doing well through most of it, and having panic attacks and having anxiety.

00:30:41.692 --> 00:30:42.438
And then it got better.

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And then it got better a little bit more, and then it got better a little bit more.

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I had no intentions of ever working again in my life.

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I didn't know I'd be doing this for a living.

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I thought I'd be working at Costco.

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That was always my backup plan.

00:30:56.890 --> 00:30:58.351
Well, I can go to Costco and get a job.

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I don't know what it is about Costco, which is an energetic nightmare for me now.

00:31:05.230 --> 00:31:07.136
Oh my God, there's no way I could even walk For me to say that this is my backup.

00:31:07.136 --> 00:31:10.688
My backup plan was to go to work at Costco I don't, I don't know why.

00:31:10.688 --> 00:31:12.809
It's the only thing that I can think of.

00:31:12.809 --> 00:31:13.971
That was going to be my savior.

00:31:15.012 --> 00:31:15.954
That's so funny.

00:31:16.434 --> 00:31:18.958
Now it is like my nemesis is Costco.

00:31:18.958 --> 00:31:19.679
Because why?

00:31:19.679 --> 00:31:27.907
Now I'm reading energy and I can walk in and feel the collective of that entire place and I have to stick to the list get in and get out, yeah, but at the time that was.

00:31:27.907 --> 00:31:31.757
My backup plan was that I'm going to raise my kids and go work at Costco or Trader Joe's.

00:31:31.757 --> 00:31:32.849
They seemed really happy there.

00:31:32.849 --> 00:31:34.490
It was my two options.

00:31:34.490 --> 00:31:42.490
And one person said to me I know you've taken all these classes and you just graduated in integrative healing arts, don't even know what that means.

00:31:42.490 --> 00:31:48.592
I just made it through these classes for almost three years and she said why don't you come work for me at one of my spas?

00:31:48.592 --> 00:31:53.733
Just come, you can hang out, you can do some Reiki if you want, you could talk to people.

00:31:53.733 --> 00:31:56.349
I'm like, ok, I'll just go talk to people.

00:31:56.349 --> 00:32:00.778
And that's how it started, where people just wanted to come and sit in my room and just chat with me.

00:32:01.484 --> 00:32:02.949
How many years ago was that?

00:32:03.230 --> 00:32:03.510
Nine.

00:32:03.510 --> 00:32:07.911
Eight or nine, yeah, eight or nine, and then realized I'd been doing that the entire time.

00:32:07.951 --> 00:32:09.095
Right, isn't that funny.

00:32:09.496 --> 00:32:09.757
Always.

00:32:09.944 --> 00:32:22.644
So I find myself at this place where what I find myself doing, which is holding space and helping other people be their best versions and helping them level up, and all of this stuff I look back and it's like I've been doing this the entire time.

00:32:22.644 --> 00:32:31.090
I've been doing this the entire time but I didn't realize that that's like valuable either Valuable and my gift right, my energy is my gift.

00:32:31.171 --> 00:32:32.295
My energy is my.

00:32:32.295 --> 00:32:32.756
I love that.

00:32:32.756 --> 00:32:34.563
My energy is my gift.

00:32:34.563 --> 00:32:42.218
My kids will still tell you and they are 26 and 23 now they will still tell you that when they were little, I could go to Target and they'd be like how do you make friends?

00:32:42.218 --> 00:32:42.919
Wherever you go?

00:32:42.919 --> 00:32:48.244
I'm like, I don't know.

00:32:48.244 --> 00:32:48.766
Your energy is magnetic.

00:32:48.766 --> 00:32:49.527
Yeah, it is, Energy is magnetic.

00:32:49.527 --> 00:32:51.729
So if you're going to put out being a bitch at Target, that's what's going to come out A thousand percent.

00:32:51.729 --> 00:32:58.297
If you're walking through there having fun with your kids and you say hi to people who walk by, because that's who I am, that's what you're going to get back.

00:32:58.297 --> 00:33:01.580
And so I was making friends wherever I went.

00:33:01.580 --> 00:33:03.632
Then I started working in these kids' classrooms.

00:33:03.632 --> 00:33:04.413
I was that mom.

00:33:04.413 --> 00:33:07.031
I worked in that school 30 hours a week, for free.

00:33:07.292 --> 00:33:07.855
I love that.

00:33:08.125 --> 00:33:10.173
And every kid wanted to sit with me.

00:33:10.173 --> 00:33:21.390
And I was like okay, I'm doing the same thing now, it's just in a different place, in a different space, and I'm doing it for a different reason a different space and I'm doing it for a different reason.

00:33:21.410 --> 00:33:29.393
When people realize, you know, for the listeners who don't know how to get to a place where they are starting to kind of have this more positive or how do you like get, how do you get off the starting block?

00:33:29.393 --> 00:33:29.693
Right?

00:33:29.693 --> 00:33:36.166
And for me it's think about what you're putting out there and really realize that what you put out there is what you're going to get back.

00:33:36.166 --> 00:33:47.488
Yeah, so if you're the person that's always complaining about the weather or the traffic or the whatever, it is right your circumstances in life, traffic's going to be worse that day, and also traffic and weather.

00:33:47.667 --> 00:33:49.832
FYI is low-hanging fruit.

00:33:50.113 --> 00:33:50.574
Absolutely Like.

00:33:50.574 --> 00:33:51.655
Stop it's dense energy.

00:33:51.655 --> 00:33:52.738
Get rid of that shit it is.

00:33:52.778 --> 00:33:53.740
It's like save your Skittles.

00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:57.181
I think I've told you about the the skittles analogy.

00:33:57.181 --> 00:33:59.582
Right, it's just energy to me a skittle.

00:33:59.602 --> 00:34:07.073
Save your and by the way, the weather in arizona is the same every day, so we don't have anything to talk about exactly, and if you're going to complain about how hot it is every day, move to a different state.

00:34:07.252 --> 00:34:08.405
Yes, like we don't want you here.

00:34:08.405 --> 00:34:12.101
I'm so sorry, it's annoying, yeah, the weather is what the weather is.

00:34:12.101 --> 00:34:15.269
Isn't it amazing that the big guy made this happen and we chose to be here?

00:34:15.269 --> 00:34:18.657
Yeah, that the sun came up this morning and, like we live in disneyland?

00:34:18.657 --> 00:34:25.344
Yeah, and yet we still come from as a, as the majority of us come from this place of like oh, what's happening today?

00:34:25.344 --> 00:34:25.606
I?

00:34:25.646 --> 00:34:26.088
gotta do this.

00:34:26.108 --> 00:34:26.530
I gotta do that.

00:34:26.530 --> 00:34:29.003
It's like change your fucking perspective I get to do this.

00:34:29.023 --> 00:34:32.097
Instead of listening to the shouts of the world, listen to the whispers of your soul.

00:34:32.137 --> 00:34:33.246
And what is the soul telling you?

00:34:33.246 --> 00:34:33.867
That's a little.

00:34:33.887 --> 00:34:50.197
Will you say that again, because that's actually a really beautiful thing that is actually my signature, like that's my, that's my whole mantra is don't listen to the shouts of the world, like listen to the whispers of your soul or the whispers of your inner guidance, or listen to your heart, but the shouts of the world is what's heavy.

00:34:50.197 --> 00:34:53.831
Turn off the news, turn off everything turn off everything.

00:34:53.931 --> 00:34:58.190
I, you know everything I don't, I don't, consume, and I haven't for years.

00:34:58.190 --> 00:35:07.952
And I remember when COVID first started happening and I was living up north, I would get up in the morning and I would sit in front of the news and watch that happen and I have never been more depressed in my life.

00:35:08.172 --> 00:35:09.297
And fearful and fearful.

00:35:09.666 --> 00:35:10.911
It feeds on all of that right.

00:35:10.911 --> 00:35:20.376
So it's like you get to decide what you consume yeah, when you realize that, take control of your life yeah, if you're doing something that doesn't make you feel good, stop it.

00:35:20.476 --> 00:35:42.514
Yeah, like it's it's literally that easy you get to change if you're not leading from heart center and you're leading from fear, like look at the choices and look at the outcomes from it, because if you can lead your, if you can lead your life in an intuitive way, it's so much more delicious, yeah, than people telling you what to do or being afraid and doing it because you're afraid, and that's a huge lesson.

00:35:42.514 --> 00:35:46.757
That took me a long time to not live from fear and I still live from fear.

00:35:46.757 --> 00:35:47.838
There's still days.

00:35:47.838 --> 00:35:49.141
Listen, I haven't done my taxes.

00:35:49.141 --> 00:35:52.608
I just told you that why I don't like it.

00:35:52.608 --> 00:35:54.851
Something is fearful for me about it.

00:35:55.072 --> 00:35:58.059
We're leaving after this episode and we're going to go do your taxes over lunch.

00:35:58.059 --> 00:36:00.385
We've already started.

00:36:00.967 --> 00:36:02.347
And it's not even that hard to do.

00:36:02.347 --> 00:36:07.793
It's that it just comes around and it's another self-discovery right.

00:36:07.793 --> 00:36:16.121
My parents had a fear around money and I'm really just figuring that out, and so now I have to look at how it's affecting me in this time and space.

00:36:17.445 --> 00:36:18.387
You know what's crazy about that.

00:36:18.387 --> 00:36:28.061
I believe that the energy that you put out towards things, whether it's like the fear of money or the fear of scarcity or whatever those things are, you're literally calling that in to yourself, right so?

00:36:28.422 --> 00:36:36.773
I was talking to someone this past week and we were talking about kind of their financial situation and they've lived in debt for a long time and they're trying to like figure out whatever that looks like.

00:36:36.773 --> 00:36:37.496
And it's.

00:36:37.496 --> 00:36:46.771
You're perpetuating that narrative by continuing to say that you're bad with money.

00:36:46.771 --> 00:36:47.554
Oh, totally, yeah, say the opposite, right.

00:36:47.554 --> 00:36:48.438
Words have weight, your thoughts have weight.

00:36:48.438 --> 00:36:50.067
What you put out to the universe will be it's coming back to you.

00:36:50.067 --> 00:36:50.670
You are right.

00:36:50.670 --> 00:36:54.047
I mean, I said in the intro that that you're mirroring that right, what you put out there.

00:36:54.047 --> 00:37:00.398
So so, if you're not happy with what you're getting back, yeah, be willing to look at yourself and say what am I putting out there?

00:37:00.438 --> 00:37:03.159
yeah, because you're literally just calling it right back into yourself.

00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:08.947
Oh, absolutely, and when you do that, it's powerful because you realize I have control over what it is that I call out.

00:37:08.947 --> 00:37:14.505
Right, like I've always been a positive person, I since I came out of see- I'm the opposite.

00:37:14.686 --> 00:37:17.813
I've always been the opposite, so you've got to learn how to be the other.

00:37:17.954 --> 00:37:19.998
You do right yeah, yeah, and for me it's.

00:37:19.998 --> 00:37:25.503
I need to learn how to like channel that so that it's not my positivity is a little messy.

00:37:25.503 --> 00:37:29.592
I get it gets on people, you know it gets onto them.

00:37:29.632 --> 00:37:29.914
Why?

00:37:29.914 --> 00:37:33.628
Because it gets onto them because they're not in the space.

00:37:33.648 --> 00:37:39.731
I know right belinda describes me I, I've, I've allowed people that are close at my table of life.

00:37:39.771 --> 00:37:40.152
Don't know.

00:37:40.152 --> 00:37:41.286
Belinda's off to my right.

00:37:41.306 --> 00:37:49.496
I don't know god belinda's, amazing belinda's, my belinda's been on the episode a couple of times she is, but I've allowed her to in our friendship over the last.

00:37:49.496 --> 00:37:55.646
You know, since I've moved back down from up north last couple of years, we have grown so much I don't even know.00:37:55.646 --> 00:37:57.909


I didn't know that that was even possible.00:37:57.909 --> 00:37:58.730


Well, but, I have.00:37:58.849 --> 00:38:09.889


Energy is contagious, it totally is but it's, it's being able to allow her to uh say the words and mirror back to me what, yeah, I put out in the world.00:38:09.889 --> 00:38:11.331


Yeah, and a lot of the stuff.00:38:11.331 --> 00:38:15.068


I didn't love what I saw, because I'm a freaking like I do.00:38:15.068 --> 00:38:17.233


I know I'm like is that what I really bring to the table?00:38:17.233 --> 00:38:19.228


I'm like, yeah, I guess I really is you know?00:38:19.248 --> 00:38:20.713


but then you just called yourself a lunatic.00:38:20.713 --> 00:38:22.972


What if you walked around all day and said I am a lunatic.00:38:23.224 --> 00:38:24.449


Yeah, but I am in such a good way.00:38:24.931 --> 00:38:28.146


Right, so you have to make sure that you know where lunatic's coming from.00:38:28.146 --> 00:38:29.467


Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah.00:38:29.748 --> 00:38:48.840


But I think for me, I it's like taste the fucking rainbow I'm going to leave little, and I'm going to leave little turtles everywhere for everybody, right, it's true right, but it's like, it's interesting, because when you're able to embrace what you bring, you know to everyone what you're able to bring in service.00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:50.782


You're bringing the turtle, which is amazing.00:38:57.974 --> 00:39:01.500


And today I'm like hey, anybody want you're manifesting, like I've got.00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:04.695


You know, I've been in the middle of manifesting things for many years.00:39:04.695 --> 00:39:17.826


I'm always manifesting something, but I have one thing that is finally manifesting for me, and all my girlfriends have been watching me and they know that I'm like leaving the little plastic turtles everywhere and they're like you should do this, you've got to take over, You've got to take over, you've got to.00:39:17.826 --> 00:39:24.967


And I'm like, nope, I'm going to watch this thing totally create itself like a curated manifestation.00:39:24.967 --> 00:39:28.547


I'm not going to get involved and I'm just going to sit back and watch it happen.00:39:28.547 --> 00:39:29.528


For me that works.00:39:29.528 --> 00:39:36.856


You know, I'm not go power through it, I'm more like let's watch it go down, yeah, and let's see what happens next.00:39:36.856 --> 00:39:45.063


And that's my gift, that's my power, is that I just like to watch it all unfold and observe all of it.00:39:45.731 --> 00:39:47.177


I'm learning to be more like that.00:39:47.237 --> 00:39:47.478


Yeah.00:39:47.590 --> 00:40:06.744


Because, yes, I can still bring my positive energy to things, but I can also understand that it has nothing to do with me and I don't need to control anything, like I can sprinkle my Skittles and then exit I love that so much and then like whatever is supposed to happen is going control anything, right, like I can sprinkle my Skittles and then exit, you know, and just, and then like whatever is supposed to happen is going to happen and everybody will sweep up your Skittles for you when you're at, when you leave the room.00:40:06.699 --> 00:40:07.083


I want them to keep them right.00:40:07.083 --> 00:40:07.217


Keep the.00:40:07.237 --> 00:40:08.880


Skittles and use them, do something with it.00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:10.724


You know, understand that that's possible, right.00:40:10.724 --> 00:40:13.311


Yeah, that's powerful stuff, yeah.00:40:13.592 --> 00:40:17.356


So your superpowers brought you to a platform that's so different than mine?00:40:17.356 --> 00:40:18.898


But we're both doing the same thing.00:40:18.898 --> 00:40:21.802


It just looks different and there's a.00:40:21.802 --> 00:40:24.226


There's a need for you and there's a need for me.00:40:24.226 --> 00:40:32.572


So, all of our gifts and all of our offerings, one is not better than the other and neither should be judged Like.00:40:32.572 --> 00:40:34.858


If you and I both saw poor Belinda, we're bringing her in.00:40:35.481 --> 00:40:38.693


If I'm seeing Belinda for one thing, but you're seeing her for something else.00:40:38.693 --> 00:40:48.226


First of all, please, like, whoever it is, belinda or your husband, like whoever it is, share your like, work with your people.00:40:48.226 --> 00:40:52.061


Like, let somebody go from person A to B because they might need A today.00:40:52.061 --> 00:40:57.557


I might need some of Ann Skittles today, but, boy, when I need to slow down, I might check in with Jenna.00:40:57.557 --> 00:40:59.833


Yeah, and there's a need for both of us.00:40:59.974 --> 00:41:01.659


Well, and just also being in tune with that.00:41:01.659 --> 00:41:07.101


Yeah, you know so, when you talk about listening to the whispers instead of the yells of the universe, or whatever.00:41:07.101 --> 00:41:14.077


If you're able to get quiet, like you said, go sit in nature, be quiet, let things just come up, let your gut start talking to you, right?00:41:20.630 --> 00:41:22.739


I think we spend so much time letting our mind kind of get in the way and our mind is a real bastard.00:41:22.739 --> 00:41:23.822


Mine is really it really fucks with you real terrible.00:41:23.822 --> 00:41:35.690


In my tarot deck that I use, which is not a traditional deck, there's one card and it says guilt and I'm like I'm renaming that it's called mind fuckery yeah, exactly, and that's what you're doing to yourself and I do it to myself, then my next door neighbor is going to do it to herself.00:41:35.751 --> 00:41:47.396


We are going to be in that space because we are our worst enemies and the mind can fuck with you I can, and when you realize that you can have mental strength and that you can fix those things and notice you.00:41:47.576 --> 00:41:53.253


You could notice, but then you can also change that right so, so eight years ago I literally started.00:41:53.253 --> 00:42:08.242


My mind was just nonsense, like I just felt like I was in this hamster wheel and I started reading enough books that I realized like, okay, I can control that, and so I turned that into this whole my mission of okay, how do I work with that?00:42:08.309 --> 00:42:08.590


How do I?00:42:08.690 --> 00:42:10.659


figure out how that doesn't drive me.00:42:10.659 --> 00:42:24.407


Let my gut, my emotions, my knowing, let that drive me instead of my mind, and I will tell you that, being on the side of it, where I have, I'm going to say, 90% of it under control compared to where I started, that's powerful stuff.00:42:24.407 --> 00:42:28.820


Yeah, like when you use your mind as a tool instead of running your life, because your mind is always in there.00:42:28.820 --> 00:42:30.163


No, don't do that.00:42:30.431 --> 00:42:33.391


It's fear-based, it's are you sure you want to do that Exactly?00:42:33.431 --> 00:42:38.257


Instead of just like no, I'm going to listen to my gut and I'm going to go try this, and it doesn't matter whether we swing.00:42:38.257 --> 00:42:39.338


You know we're going to swing for the fence.00:42:39.338 --> 00:42:41.300


It doesn't matter whether we strike out or whether we don't.00:42:41.300 --> 00:42:42.601


At least we're going to go do that.00:42:42.621 --> 00:42:48.606


That's life and you could just, if you could just let it go do what you feel like you have to do and then let it go, Like stop controlling it.00:43:00.769 --> 00:43:01.532


Just step back and watch it, watch it unfold.00:43:01.532 --> 00:43:04.163


There's the manifesting again, like set it and and go again and then take a step like watch it, yeah, yeah, and that's powerful to be able to do that.00:43:04.163 --> 00:43:10.311


I think everybody has been so backed into the corner with fear of, like being afraid to try anything new, to do anything, to connect with other people, to smile at people in the store.00:43:10.353 --> 00:43:25.972


I mean, yeah, god, covid really messed us up as far as our connection, but like think about how good you feel when you, when you have a connection with somebody, yeah, when you give somebody a hug, where it's like my energy center and your energy center, just hard to connect right like yeah oh god that feels so good?00:43:25.992 --> 00:43:29.460


do you need 12 hugs a day just to make it like to feed your energy?00:43:29.481 --> 00:43:31.673


people that go all year and don't have a hug, right?00:43:31.673 --> 00:43:36.494


Uh, yes, I could be one of those people half the time yeah, I think I have clients to give me hugs.00:43:37.356 --> 00:43:38.619


Right, that's where I'm getting them.00:43:38.619 --> 00:43:39.059


I love it.00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.054


Yeah, I love it, but that's a big, that's a really big thing, and so it is.00:43:42.054 --> 00:43:44.851


We've lost that connection that, yeah, we come right back to.00:43:44.891 --> 00:43:52.753


We've lost compassion and connection to others and we've we've lost just being kind to each other lost being kind.00:43:52.773 --> 00:43:57.088


We have you think about that and it's, I think that drives a lot of stuff.00:43:57.128 --> 00:43:58.373


We're really gross to each other.00:43:58.373 --> 00:44:00.663


So we're gross to ourselves and we're gross to each other.00:44:00.690 --> 00:44:07.630


We figure out ways to divide right, I mean, I look at how politics divides everybody, and I don't care which side you're on, for anything, it doesn't matter.00:44:07.730 --> 00:44:08.936


The collective energy is gross right now.00:44:08.936 --> 00:44:09.960


It's disgusting right.00:44:10.190 --> 00:44:11.356


I won't even plug into that.00:44:15.835 --> 00:44:20.380


Cameron tries to come home and tell me different stuff and I don't get.00:44:20.380 --> 00:44:23.003


I don't really connect to it anymore.00:44:23.003 --> 00:44:31.771


Where I used to love that, like five, 10, 15 years ago, I loved all the stuff.00:44:31.771 --> 00:44:33.152


I love to be knowledgeable, especially politically.00:44:33.152 --> 00:44:33.913


I just thought it was fun.00:44:33.913 --> 00:44:43.782


I mean, I don't know why I thought it was fun and now it's like read the headlines, have your knowledge get out, like don't connect to it, don't take it in, don't pull that energy in Because it's energetic.00:44:43.822 --> 00:44:45.043


I don't even know what's happening out there in the world.00:44:45.083 --> 00:44:47.306


It's good, you don't need to know, it's literally my favorite, yeah.00:44:47.327 --> 00:44:47.907


It's my favorite.00:44:47.907 --> 00:44:50.458


You could tell me anything and I wouldn't be surprised, Because it's like oh, I'm sure.00:45:00.690 --> 00:45:00.851


I other.00:45:00.851 --> 00:45:01.592


Thank you for the reminder.00:45:01.592 --> 00:45:03.119


Yeah, so we can go right back now to collect the collective energy.00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:05.146


If we're going to talk about energy, the collective energy is crazy.00:45:05.146 --> 00:45:15.717


So now, how can you find again that stillness within yourself and that okay with yourself to not hear the collective energy and to not feel it, and there's?00:45:15.777 --> 00:45:16.659


a lot going on out there.00:45:16.659 --> 00:45:18.242


How do you protect your energy?00:45:18.242 --> 00:45:20.757


You have a lot of people that come in and see you.00:45:20.757 --> 00:45:23.398


You talk about going into Costco and that being a whole thing.00:45:23.398 --> 00:45:26.059


Tell me tips and tricks of how you protect your own energy.00:45:26.269 --> 00:45:42.637


Well, we could do lots of fun rituals and there's lots of fun ways to do things and you can wear the crystals and you can pray to your angels and pull in golden bubbles of light, and you can also not be afraid of any of it too and not do any of that.00:45:42.637 --> 00:45:43.018


So there's this.00:45:43.018 --> 00:45:46.893


There's kind of this like whole woo-woo back and forth, like, oh, you're going to costco, how many crystals do you have in your shirt?00:45:46.893 --> 00:45:50.675


Oh, yeah, I've got like seven crystals and they're protecting me from whatever's going on.00:45:50.675 --> 00:46:00.240


And then there's this other part of me that knows that I'm so protective because of who I am and who am I working for, collective like I'm, so do I need to be afraid?00:46:01.001 --> 00:46:06.963


So what I do now is come home and be present in my home and that helps me to ground.00:46:06.963 --> 00:46:08.686


It helps me.00:46:08.686 --> 00:46:12.960


Do I still go into my office or my studio space and sage the crap out of it?00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:30.742


I totally do, because when you're working in this field, you're opening up to many different realms and vibrations and they kind of collect, and sometimes you might hear certain things and bangs and talking and dead people, whatever's happening, whatever's happening that day, and so I just love sage.00:46:30.742 --> 00:46:31.884


Do you have to use it.00:46:31.884 --> 00:46:35.126


No, you don't have to use anything, but I love it.00:46:35.126 --> 00:46:43.842


So I'm still going to do my rituals and I consider my rituals that I do, walking into my studio space, saging it out, playing some sound bowls or the gong, whatever.00:46:43.842 --> 00:46:45.344


That's my meditation.00:46:46.110 --> 00:46:50.896


So all I'm doing is connecting and coming home.00:46:50.896 --> 00:46:52.400


And how do I get rid of all of that?00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.474


It's just about coming home for me and knowing like I can't wait to go home, even if nobody's there for me.00:46:57.474 --> 00:47:09.481


Well, there's three dogs waiting for me, that I am their best friend, those animals and the birds outside and my space, and it's quiet and nobody knocks on my door and I don't answer the phone.00:47:09.481 --> 00:47:11.545


That's how I come back into be centered.00:47:11.545 --> 00:47:13.856


That's how that's everything to me.00:47:13.856 --> 00:47:18.032


Do I still go through the ritual If I take a shower every day when I get home from work?00:47:18.032 --> 00:47:23.677


I cleanse myself off and I name every person that came to see me that day and I tell them their energy is going down the drain.00:47:23.677 --> 00:47:24.900


I don't want it.00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:26.074


I'm cutting it loose.00:47:26.074 --> 00:47:28.077


Do I, you know, do a little shaking off?00:47:28.077 --> 00:47:29.456


Maybe a little tail swift comes on.00:47:29.590 --> 00:47:30.614


I'm shaking off the energy.00:47:30.949 --> 00:47:33.199


Yes, I do that because it feels good.00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:35.050


Do I go outside, in between every client?00:47:35.050 --> 00:47:36.251


Yes, I do that.00:47:36.251 --> 00:47:45.719


If it doesn't happen that day, though, it's not going to energetically change me, but to be home and grounded for me is my space and place.00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:48.402


That just keeps me going for the next day.00:47:49.402 --> 00:47:54.206


I'd like to talk with you really quickly about sound healing.00:47:54.206 --> 00:47:59.333


Okay, because I love that so much.00:47:59.333 --> 00:47:59.795


I can't stand it.00:47:59.815 --> 00:48:01.943


It's magical, it's magical, it is magical.00:48:03.730 --> 00:48:04.733


It is magical when you can really get into that.00:48:04.733 --> 00:48:10.177


I do a yin class with this amazing goddess from heaven named Linda on Wednesday nights and I swear to God I adore her.00:48:10.177 --> 00:48:12.188


She plays the gong oh beautiful.00:48:12.309 --> 00:48:12.871


And I was telling.00:48:12.871 --> 00:48:26.001


Belinda, because I drag Belinda along a lot to that class, and then we do dinner afterwards and I said I really want one of those gongs and Belinda says you should probably not just go buy one.00:48:26.001 --> 00:48:28.572


And I'm like, I'm just so she consulted you and I'm telling you a story.00:48:28.572 --> 00:48:29.556


We just talked about this.00:48:29.556 --> 00:48:30.097


It's gonna come.00:48:30.097 --> 00:48:31.000


I forgot about my job.00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:57.224


I have a new job but the whole, like I picture this, this meme or this clip that Belinda sent me, and it was like this jazzercise, and there's these ladies on these trampolines and the lady at the front is holding on the front and she's boing, boing, boing, boing and the people in the back are just regular and she's like that's, you is the one at the front, so apparently you're not supposed to just go buy a gong, which is what I do, is like give me the biggest gong I can have and then she says I spoke with Jenna.00:48:57.764 --> 00:49:05.067


Jenna says you should probably not just go buy a gong, also maybe be called to the, maybe be called so all of the things that go into it.00:49:05.067 --> 00:49:08.128


And I'm like, all right, this is, this is good lesson, this is good learning for me.00:49:08.128 --> 00:49:13.233


But then she said something about a bigger gong and I'm like isn't the one that Linda has big?00:49:13.233 --> 00:49:15.456


And she's like no, not, that's not what Jenna says.00:49:15.456 --> 00:49:19.601


Jenna says that's actually a small one and I'm like, oh my God, then my eyes go huge, wide.00:49:19.641 --> 00:49:21.021


I'm like how big, can I get this?00:49:21.583 --> 00:49:23.085


Because I have a size matters.00:49:23.085 --> 00:49:24.826


I'm going to say that always.00:49:29.369 --> 00:49:30.954


I'm like how big of a gong could I really fit in my new space?00:49:30.954 --> 00:49:36.994


Well, the gong is going to speak to you and it's going to be powerful for you, because it's what you, it's what you need.00:49:37.054 --> 00:49:40.061


It doesn't Size does not matter in a gong, it does matter Stop.00:49:40.663 --> 00:49:41.043


Stop.00:49:41.043 --> 00:49:54.146


Size doesn't matter, but vibrational healing or sound healing, it's part of the person and the connection to their tools that make the magic.00:49:54.146 --> 00:49:58.922


So it's not just walking over to a gong and hitting it and it's going to be magical.00:49:58.922 --> 00:50:01.898


It's your intention behind it and it's your.00:50:01.898 --> 00:50:04.476


Did you see how my voice totally changed when I was talking about sound healing?00:50:04.476 --> 00:50:12.016


It did it all of my, all of my tools that I use in my space, as I've told you, and I blend like.00:50:12.036 --> 00:50:14.255


They have names, they have personalities.00:50:14.255 --> 00:50:23.072


You have to learn them and they have to learn you learn them and they have to learn you.00:50:23.072 --> 00:50:23.313


So we are.00:50:23.313 --> 00:50:24.155


This is an energy exchange.00:50:24.155 --> 00:50:31.115


Yes, they might be made out of metal or crystal, but those things are alive in their own way as well, and each one has energy and each wants to be used in their own way.00:50:31.115 --> 00:50:33.400


Now, this is jenna's theory and philosophy.00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:43.527


Sure, you can go play some bowls somewhere and think that they're awesome and great and beautiful, or you can have intention behind each one well, I want intention, but I want you to go shopping with me.00:50:43.568 --> 00:50:44.650


So absolutely I think.00:50:44.650 --> 00:50:45.413


I think that you need it.00:50:45.434 --> 00:50:46.516


I think that.00:50:46.516 --> 00:50:48.121


I think that I can't let you lose.00:50:48.121 --> 00:50:50.213


I think it's gonna have to have a belinda jenna.00:50:50.213 --> 00:50:51.336


Yeah situation.00:50:51.356 --> 00:50:52.340


We have to find the space right.00:50:52.380 --> 00:50:52.922


I'll buy dinner.00:50:52.922 --> 00:50:54.110


I don't even know where you buy a gong.00:50:54.110 --> 00:50:57.255


I have no idea, like I'm sure I'm sure jenna does's not on Amazon.00:50:57.295 --> 00:51:02.621


I fucking guarantee you that right, yeah, I mean, you know Amazon's lovely for instant gratification, oh fuck.00:51:02.621 --> 00:51:03.824


Yes, she's going to oh.00:51:04.123 --> 00:51:05.525


Instant gratification I just got you?00:51:05.931 --> 00:51:07.496


Oh, it was a gut punch in the solar plexus.00:51:07.496 --> 00:51:16.413


Or can you be a turtle about it and find the one that speaks to you, for you, with the intention of what you're using it for?00:51:16.413 --> 00:51:19.538


Are you using it for yourself or do you want to show off with your friends?00:51:19.538 --> 00:51:19.818


What do you?00:51:19.838 --> 00:51:20.039


want to do.00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:21.360


I don't give a shit about showing off for my friends.00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:22.342


There you go, so it's for you.00:51:22.762 --> 00:51:23.565


So why would you?00:51:23.565 --> 00:51:33.976


Why would you just go pick one up off the street or buy something that Joe Amazon picked out for you?00:51:33.976 --> 00:51:34.518


No, I'm not.00:51:34.538 --> 00:51:36.760


definitely wouldn't do that because I really love my story.00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:37.742


Hold on one quick second.00:51:37.742 --> 00:51:38.782


Was that 10 or two that you did?00:51:39.103 --> 00:51:40.083


Okay, thank you.00:51:40.083 --> 00:51:41.365


Oh, goodness, you know what I'm coming back for.00:51:41.365 --> 00:51:43.717


Number two yeah, tell me Okay tell me your God's story.00:51:44.070 --> 00:51:46.034


So I go to a sound healing class.00:51:46.034 --> 00:52:00.856


By the way, in most states I can't imagine there's a state you do not need a certification to be a sound healer, right, it's an energetic dance and flow.00:52:00.856 --> 00:52:04.500


So you have to practice, you have to learn your people.00:52:04.500 --> 00:52:06.601


Your people are these objects in front of you.00:52:06.601 --> 00:52:09.202


Learn which mallet who likes to play together.00:52:09.202 --> 00:52:10.983


It's a whole situation at my office.00:52:10.983 --> 00:52:14.626


They are screaming at me over there and they lead half of my sessions.00:52:14.626 --> 00:52:20.170


I'm not there, I'm the conduit of their healing for the person.00:52:20.170 --> 00:52:20.650


So my gong story.00:52:20.670 --> 00:52:22.692


I go to this class by somebody that I love.00:52:22.692 --> 00:52:38.737


She was a mentor of mine and she had a yoga studio in Scottsdale that unfortunately closed during COVID, but she had the bowl temple, and what a bowl temple is is a beautiful space with hundreds of bowls and you go and you just don't go in like Ann would and say I'll take the pink one.00:52:38.737 --> 00:52:43.860


No, you go in and let the bulls talk to you, and so it's a whole this beautiful thing.00:52:43.860 --> 00:52:45.880


Anyway, so I go to the sound healing class.00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.123


The second part of the class, week two, was the gong.00:52:49.123 --> 00:52:50.342


I'm like I don't want to do the gong.00:52:50.342 --> 00:52:52.884


I don't like the gong.00:52:52.884 --> 00:52:54.485


The gong is intimidating to me.00:52:54.485 --> 00:52:57.286


I've gone to sound healings and I've walked out during the gong.00:52:57.286 --> 00:52:59.706


Really, oh yeah, does it make you feel uncomfortable?00:52:59.706 --> 00:53:02.688


Yes, and it's supposed to it totally is.00:53:04.449 --> 00:53:10.434


If you are not ready for that healing, if you're not mentally ready, it's a panic attack waiting to happen.00:53:10.474 --> 00:53:12.172


It is, it's intense, it's intense.00:53:12.293 --> 00:53:15.257


So do you want to own a gong, Anne, where you go and just hit it in the middle?00:53:15.378 --> 00:53:15.778


No, no, no.00:53:15.798 --> 00:53:16.860


Where that's your heart, chakra.00:53:16.860 --> 00:53:19.182


And now I'm going to leave you with your heart open and exposed.00:53:19.182 --> 00:53:20.445


No, I want to spend time with it.00:53:20.445 --> 00:53:21.606


You want to spend time with it.00:53:22.271 --> 00:53:23.856


When Linda plays that thing, I swear to God.00:53:23.856 --> 00:53:24.699


Half the time I cry.00:53:25.371 --> 00:53:27.657


You can feel that energy going through you.00:53:27.717 --> 00:53:36.199


It is intense, it is uncomfortable and for me, when I feel discomfort, I run towards it because I know that the awesome sauce lives on the other side of that.00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:45.773


It's like a breathwork session, it is right so.00:53:45.773 --> 00:53:46.347


So for me it's the more intense, the better.00:53:46.347 --> 00:53:46.748


Obviously that's.00:53:46.748 --> 00:53:47.603


I'm a cannonballer, yeah, I in life.00:53:47.512 --> 00:53:49.068


I want to get me to the yeah, and I'm avoidant, so I'm like I'm out of here, right, so I'm bolting out of this class.00:53:49.068 --> 00:54:04.797


Take my mat, I'll see it next time I come so to us by this gong online platform that I love, and so we were sitting next to the smallest one.00:54:04.797 --> 00:54:08.092


I'm like mine's small, mine's small.00:54:08.092 --> 00:54:09.355


I just kept on saying mine's small.00:54:09.355 --> 00:54:18.351


So we're learning on this small gong and it's super powerful and I'm like, ooh, this gong is delicious and we are learning it from a kundalini instructor.00:54:18.351 --> 00:54:21.438


So this is the space and place I wanted to be, and why?00:54:21.438 --> 00:54:28.041


Because she's teaching us how to heal the body and what we can do for ptsd with a gong and anxiety with a gong.00:54:28.041 --> 00:54:33.032


And we're not to hit the gong or you're going to leave somebody walking out on the streets with anxiety and panic.00:54:33.713 --> 00:54:35.715


So I'm sitting there day two.00:54:35.715 --> 00:54:41.521


I'm sitting there with the gong and I'm like I say to my friend that I'm there with, I say the gong is saying my name.00:54:41.521 --> 00:54:43.804


She goes tell it to stop talking to you.00:54:43.804 --> 00:54:46.086


I'm like he's talking to me.00:54:46.086 --> 00:54:47.152


His name is sweet little man.00:54:47.152 --> 00:54:48.458


Oh, my god, he's the sweet little man.00:54:48.458 --> 00:54:50.632


She goes don't give it a name, don't give it a name.00:54:50.632 --> 00:54:56.097


And as soon as I heard the name, it was over for me and I was like oh god, I'm going home with this gong.00:54:56.097 --> 00:54:59.882


She goes Jenna, you just bought five thousand dollars worth of bowls don't get the gong.00:54:59.922 --> 00:55:02.465


I'm like, okay, you're right, you're right, I'm not gonna get the gong.00:55:02.465 --> 00:55:03.411


I get very I'm.00:55:03.411 --> 00:55:06.559


I'm kind of like ann, I'm the kid in the candy store like I want the gong.00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:08.731


So we learned for three days on the gong.00:55:08.731 --> 00:55:11.494


I'm on gong overload and I go home without the gong.00:55:11.494 --> 00:55:13.277


Wow, I did it.00:55:13.277 --> 00:55:15.059


I was so good of me.00:55:15.059 --> 00:55:21.313


I don't even know how that happened and I started dreaming of the gong like it's talking to me in my flippant dreams.00:55:21.313 --> 00:55:24.942


I'm like, oh my gosh, that sweet little man is calling my name.00:55:24.942 --> 00:55:27.559


Tuesday class ended.00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:29.023


Sunday Tuesday I call the studio.00:55:29.023 --> 00:55:30.889


I'm like, hi, this is Jenna DiGiuseppe.00:55:30.889 --> 00:55:35.018


She's like it's the only one left and I went I'll be there in 10 minutes.00:55:35.018 --> 00:55:43.150


And I went and took that gong and he is the most powerful thing I work with and not I'm not even afraid of him.00:55:43.452 --> 00:55:44.173


I love the gong.00:55:44.393 --> 00:55:52.182


I love the gong and then I started learning more about the gong and that gong taught me how to help others with it.00:55:52.182 --> 00:55:55.692


It wasn't me saying we're gonna do this today, let's get rocking.00:55:55.692 --> 00:56:05.117


It was more like stay in yourenna, I've got this, but go ahead and hit me right and when it calls you right, then answer it, yeah answer the call.00:56:05.117 --> 00:56:06.659


So it's.00:56:06.659 --> 00:56:11.983


It's amazing when you have a connection with when your best friends are musical instruments.00:56:12.103 --> 00:56:23.423


Yeah, and they are well, there's something so yummy about it for anybody that yummy is my favorite word about it yeah, if there's anyone who hasn't done kind of a sound healing anything, I highly highly highly recommend that you do that.00:56:23.423 --> 00:56:24.976


And also like for our listeners.00:56:24.976 --> 00:56:29.936


I think a lot of people don't realize all of the different options and opportunities that are out there.00:56:29.936 --> 00:56:35.338


Look around at your local yoga studios, and I don't mean like yoga, fitness yoga.00:56:37.155 --> 00:56:40.333


I mean yin, restorative yoga, sound healing yoga, trauma yoga.00:56:40.333 --> 00:56:42.876


Like whatever it is, nidra is a beautiful practice.00:56:43.329 --> 00:56:59.454


And just go do that, figure out where you can go plug in, because then you're also around other people that have similar interests, that are also in a space where they're trying to be their best versions and their best selves and figure things out, because they also don't want to be and find the teacher that also aligns with you.00:56:59.635 --> 00:57:02.601


Yeah, because I can go to that gong class.00:57:02.601 --> 00:57:05.125


That doesn't align with me because somebody doesn't know what they're doing.00:57:05.125 --> 00:57:13.260


Not that I would have known that they didn't know, sure, but had just gotten me to that point of panic where I was like out, jenna, out.00:57:13.260 --> 00:57:15.244


Find somebody.00:57:15.244 --> 00:57:24.630


If you're interested in going for energy healing, find somebody that does both that energy healing.00:57:24.630 --> 00:57:25.233


Find somebody that does both.00:57:25.233 --> 00:57:26.577


That energy healing is also sound healing, it's one and the same.00:57:26.577 --> 00:57:38.416


Find somebody who morphs their whole sessions together and gives you a personalized healing just for you, so the bulls can talk to you and not a collective group of people laying on the floor I'm literally addicted to it's awesome, all of the things like me too, all I'm addicted to all the things.00:57:38.436 --> 00:57:53.061


Yeah like, I understand completely how that would happen, because as soon as I started talking with belinda about gongs, I was like I'm gonna have to go, you're gonna have to think about what the intention is behind it and what you want it to do for you, and then know that there's not just gongs there's.00:57:53.061 --> 00:58:01.282


There's sonic gongs, there's, there's now you're gonna blow my mind I know so, and I don't think I'm even the one who knows everything about them.00:58:01.282 --> 00:58:03.568


I was called to one that was talking in my ear.00:58:03.568 --> 00:58:05.112


They all talk to me.00:58:05.152 --> 00:58:07.697


It's such a problem do you play the gong for yourself?00:58:07.697 --> 00:58:18.300


No, I should though I was thinking the same thing like I guess I love the gong, but it's like what I play it for myself or to me, it's way more beneficial and enjoyable to be able to receive stuff.00:58:18.380 --> 00:58:22.157


And what I've learned from playing all of my instruments during session.00:58:22.157 --> 00:58:25.349


Yes, I am benefiting from all of those beautiful sounds that are going through.00:58:25.349 --> 00:58:33.599


I don't hear it the same way the other person does, so there are many times where I'm playing bowls and I'm like is this thing on over here, Like I can't hear it.00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:42.795


So I'm so close to the instrument that I'm not hearing the resonance and dissonance from the notes to go into my body and work that magic.00:58:42.795 --> 00:58:44.259


It's still happening for me.00:58:44.259 --> 00:58:46.733


I'm just not hearing it the same way you are.00:58:46.733 --> 00:58:52.431


I'm not feeling the goosebumps all over the place, or I'm not feeling the anxiety somebody has for it.00:58:52.431 --> 00:58:58.081


I'm too close to it so I'm getting the benefits but I don't hear it.00:58:58.081 --> 00:58:58.943


So to play it?00:58:58.943 --> 00:59:01.286


Um practice?00:59:01.286 --> 00:59:03.913


Yes, sure, but it's different or it's different.00:59:04.353 --> 00:59:05.836


It's different, and you know who loves the gongs.00:59:05.836 --> 00:59:07.902


Dogs love those gongs, oh my god.00:59:07.902 --> 00:59:10.501


So if you're going to play for your dogs, they will like that.00:59:10.501 --> 00:59:12.771


Do that do that and know what you're doing.00:59:12.771 --> 00:59:14.338


Excellent, yeah well.00:59:14.338 --> 00:59:17.389


Thank you, jenna, for coming today and spending time this is lovely.00:59:17.469 --> 00:59:17.851


I'm sorry.00:59:17.851 --> 00:59:18.452


It was fun.00:59:18.452 --> 00:59:20.739


I geeked out on the end there about some sound healing stuff.00:59:20.739 --> 00:59:21.681


Excellent, I love sound healing.00:59:21.681 --> 00:59:22.161


I know I do too.00:59:22.161 --> 00:59:24.498


Well, and that's going to be my may I suggest for this week.00:59:24.498 --> 00:59:27.987


So usually I try to do a may I suggest to the listeners.00:59:28.007 --> 00:59:28.309


Oh, I love that.00:59:33.195 --> 00:59:33.755


And so my may.00:59:33.775 --> 00:59:34.456


I suggest is twofold.00:59:34.496 --> 00:59:35.097


It's leave your.00:59:35.097 --> 00:59:43.907


Go to a tree that calls to you Go anywhere and go sit, put your feet in the grass, like just do that and sit, and maybe you only can do it for five or ten minutes, maybe you can do it for 30 seconds.00:59:43.927 --> 00:59:45.228


Exactly Whatever it takes, whatever works.00:59:45.329 --> 00:59:48.380


But realize how good that feels and it starts unlocking things.00:59:48.420 --> 00:59:48.721


Yeah.00:59:49.030 --> 00:59:58.059


The other thing I wanted to suggest is, if you go on Spotify, you can, or whatever your music app yeah, you can type in sound bath sound healing.00:59:58.059 --> 01:00:05.269


You know, bowls sound bowls whatever, and just turn that on and listen to that instead of just having crazy noise, right I?01:00:05.269 --> 01:00:10.289


Agree, there's all this everything all the time TVs and phones, and you know social media and everything that you're on.01:00:10.289 --> 01:00:14.793


Put that on and then just let your mind wander right, because it's actually really beautiful.01:00:14.793 --> 01:00:15.856


What will happen from that?01:00:15.956 --> 01:00:17.119


Absolutely, I love that for you.01:00:17.179 --> 01:00:17.802


Yeah, I do too.01:00:17.802 --> 01:00:20.291


From that, absolutely.01:00:20.291 --> 01:00:20.693


I love that for you.01:00:20.693 --> 01:00:20.974


Yeah, I do too.01:00:20.974 --> 01:00:22.202


So, okay, well, good, well then that's our time for today.01:00:22.202 --> 01:00:29.288


Um, if you have questions or suggestions, please either send us a direct message that's how old I am direct message on Instagram, or you can send us an email.01:00:29.288 --> 01:00:32.617


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I don't have a problem with that, but I am, I feel like.01:00:34.931 --> 01:00:37.697


I'm 100 when it comes to young people, because they all do their own platforms.01:00:37.717 --> 01:00:40.362


I I still say the pound sign Like just press the pound sign.01:00:41.972 --> 01:00:42.817


It is what it is.01:00:42.817 --> 01:00:46.199


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Jenna DiGiuseppi

Integrated Healing Arts Practittioner

Jenna, founder of Sacred Pause Healing, creates a deeply nurturing space for clients to reconnect with their heart and Source. As and Integrated Healing Arts Practitioner, she blends Energy and Vibrational Healing, Mindfulness Guidance and Transformation Coaching, recently adding Spinal Flow Technique to her offerings.

Her serene sanctuary invites profound transformation-Where trauma, emotions and anxiety are processed, and the body reveals hidden energetic blocks. With compassion and expertise, Jenna guides clients toward deep healing, release and wholeness.